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Grapes Tavern, 30 Thomas Street, Southwark St John Horsleydown, Surrey, London

Southwark St John index

At 2 St Thomas Street by 1891. Thomas Street is listed in 1869 as between numbers 17 & 22 Gainsford Street, and the Grapes is listed at number 50 Gainsford Street; therefore these may not be entirely the same Pub. In 1839, the address of the Grapes is at 51 Gainsford Street.

A listing of historical London public houses, Taverns, Inns, Beer Houses and Hotels in Southwark St John Horsleydown, Surrey, London. The Southwark St John Horsleydown, Surrey , London listing uses information from census, Trade Directories and History to add licensees, bar staff, Lodgers and Visitors.

The following entries are in this format:

Year/Publican or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.

I am still on the hunt for my ancestor Paul Rider and have searched the victualler liscence records.
I have him listed as publican from 1818 -1827 at the corner of Gainsford Street and Thomas Street. I had been told that this pub was THE GRAPES but that may be a name given to it later because Paul is listed at that address but the pub is actually called SHIPS IN DISTRESS.
The person who continually stood surity for Paul Rider was Evan Owan of the Rose and Crown at Shad Thames. This is not the same Rose and Crown that Paul was later Publican of at 113 Long Lane Bermondsey.
My ancestor, Paul Rider [Ryder], is listed as publican of The Grapes, Gainsford Street Horsleydown in 1828. Between 1836 -1941 he is listed as publican of The Rose and Crown ,Long Lane, Bermondsey. He moved to Stockton Durham in 1841 [before the census] and died there in 1843. On his death certificate he is given as a licensed victualler. His wife Sarah is listed in Wear Street Sunderland 1851 census as a publican **

1828/Paul Rider/../../../.. **

1834/Paul Rider, formerly of the 'Ship in Distress' Public House, Gainsford Street, Horsleydown, Victualler and Dealer in Hams, then of No 75 Free School Street, Horsleydown, both in Surrey, and late of No 23, Baths Buildings, City Road, Middlesex, out of business./London Gazette Online ****

1839/John Hill/../../../Pigots Directory ****

1851/Mrs Sarah Remnant/../../../Kellys Directory ****

1869/William Henry Billers/../../../Post Office Directory ****

This is probably the William Billers who is at the White Lion, 29 leather Lane by the 1871 census

1871/P E Daniels/Licensed Victualler/26/Southampton Hants/Census  ***
1871/C Daniels/Wife/26/Kingsley Hants/Census
1871/W Lucas/Servant Potman/23/Petworth Sussex/Census
1871/Ellen Drummond/Servant Gen/20/Bermondsey Surrey/Census

1881/John Burdett/Licensed Victualler/42/Aylestone, Leicester/Census ****
1881/Amelia Burdett/Wife/40/London, Middlesex/Census
1881/John G Burdett/Son/8/London, Middlesex/Census
1881/William Jones/Potman/32/Bristol/Census

1882/John Burdett/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1884/Thomas Peck/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1891/Joseph Eaton/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1895/Mrs Sarah Eaton/../../../Post Office Directory ****

At 50 Gainsford Street :

1938/Rd Smirthwaite/../../../Post Office Directory ****

1944/Rt Ernest Pither/../../../Post Office Directory ****


** Provided By Pam Taylor

*** Provided By Bev Howlett

**** Provided By Kevan


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