Accurate transcriptions of the 1921 census are being added to the pub history site, starting with London.
Foresters' Arms, Baldwin's Hill, Loughton
The Foresters Arms, Baldwins Hill, Loughton - circa 1894
Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill pre 1910
Foresters Arms, Baldwin Hill in 2000
All kindly provided by Margaret Wood
Residents at this address.
My Essex ancestors were the Grout family of Loughton. As far back as I have
been able to go, early to mid 1700, the family were living on Baldwin's Hill
in a loppers cottage. This became a beer shop, then grocer and beer shop,
and eventually The Foresters Arms, which it remains today.
I understand that my particular branch of the family remained in the pub
until the 1920's some time - could even have been later. I believe the Grout
family who at one time owned Foresters and Gardeners were reasonably " well
off" and owned quite a few cottages in the vicinity of Baldwin's Hill, which
they sold. They also held title to some of Epping Forest a large part of
which was appropriated by the council - way, way, back.
Another branch of the family had the Gardeners Arms on York Hill. My
grandparents Grout had the Anchor Inn and the Kings Head in Guisborough. (N.Yks).
My aunt Hampson had the Buck Hotel in Guisborough. Aunt Hampson then had the
Old Dog in Preston, Lancs., and the Mount Pleasant, Cocker St/High St
Blackpool. Father-in-law Wood had the Crown and Anchor in Redcar North
Yorkshire ***
1874/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's
1878/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's
1881/George Grout/Licensed Victualler/37/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Eliza J. Grout/Wife/38/Waltham, Essex/Census
1881/Percy E. Grout/Son/8/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Florence E. Grout/Daughter/6/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Beatrice C. Grout/Daughter/4/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Mary E. Grout/Daughter/2/Loughton, Essex/Census
1881/Harriet Enever/Sister, Assistant Fancy Repository (FGT)/40/Waltham,
Essex/Census
1881/Caroline Enever/Sister, Barmaid/39/Waltham, Essex/Census
1882/George Grout/Beer Retailer/../../Kelly's
Note: Prior to 1885, premises only named in 1881
1885/George Grout/../../../Kelly's*
1886/Mrs. Eliza Jane Grout/../../../Kelly's
1894/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's
1895/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's
1898/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's
1899/P. Grout/../../../Kelly's
1902/Percy Grout/../../../Kelly's
1908/Percy E. Grout/../../../Kelly's
1912/Percy Enever Grout/../../../Kelly's
1917/Mrs. Lilian May Miller/../../../Kelly's
Thomas John William Terry was the licensee at the "Green
Man", Halliday Walk (later Mildmay Street) in 1915-1917. He also
had the "Carlton
Tavern", which he took over in 1918.
Kindly provided by John Carnaby
Elsie Florence Terry on the Ind, Coope & Company tenancy agreement, dated 12th June 1918 for the Foresters, Loughton
In 1918, Elsie Florence Terry (wife of Thomas John William Terry) is shown on the Coope & Company tenancy agreement, dated 12th June 1918 for the Green Man, 32 Haliday Walk, N1. **Also on 12th June 1918 Elsie Florence Terry is shown on the Ind, Coope & Company tenancy agreement for the Foresters Arms, Loughton.
In the very same year of these two agreements, Elsie Florence Terry became ill and later died at the young age of 29 years, at the Foresters Arms in October 1918.
He was the licensee at "Foresters Arms" Loughton in 1918 (where his first wife Elsie died). Then he was the licensee at the "Gower Arms" Store Street in 1923, and the licensee in 1925 - 1926 at the Denbigh Arms, Denbigh Place, with his second wife Florence Ellen. When Thomas John William Terry died in 1930 (aged 41), the probate shows him at the "Beaumont Arms" Uxbridge Road. I am not sure whether his second wife Florence Ellen continued there. He was my Grandmother Carnaby's Brother. **
1925/Fred Tolson/../../../Kelly's
1933/Alfred W. Helliar/../../../Kelly's
* Provided by the Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England, 1801-1900
** Provided By John Carnaby
*** Provided by Margaret Wood