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Waltham Abbey pub history index
This pub closed and became a butchers shop, before being demolished in 1962.
Provided by Mark Hawes
The following entries are in this format:
Year/Publican or other Resident/Relationship to Head and or Occupation/Age/Where Born/Source.
1841/William Argent/Publican/55/Essex/Census ****
1845/William Argent/Coal & Coke Dealer/../../Post Office
1851/William Argent /../../../Post Office
1851/Elizabeth Argent/Licensed Victualler, Widow/62/Hallingbury, Essex/Census ****
1851/Caroline Collins/Niece/15/Hallingbury, Essex/Census
1851/Amelia Timson/Grand Daughter, Visitor/12/Merton, Surrey/Census
"The Red Lion sat in front of the Welsh Harp and fronted the Market Square when the Market square was much smaller and enclosed on all 4 sides. You have my 3x Great Grandfather listed as landlord - William Argent (b. 1786 - d. 1850). Your listings show the next landlord as H. Newman.
Henry Newman was not only William's step son (William's 2nd wife was the Widow Elizabeth Newman formerly Cass) but also his son-in-law as Henry was married to Alice Argent, his daughter."
The above provided by Mark Hawes
1861/Charles Munn/Licensed Victualler, Widow/33/Low Leyton, Essex/Census ****
1861/Elizabeth Ann Munn/Daughter/7/Walthamstow, Essex/Census
1861/Sarah Messer/General Servant/38/Woodford Bridge, Essex/Census
1867/George Kingzett/../../../Post Office
1871/Henry Copperwheat/Publican/38/Waltham Abbey, Essex/Census ****
1871/Lydia Copperwheat/Wife/37/Holborn, Middlesex/Census
1880/Mrs. J. A. Staines/../../../Kelly's*
1881/Julia Ann Staines/Publican/44/South Ockendon, Essex/Census
1881/Ellen Staines/Daughter/15/West Thurrock, Essex/Census
1881/William Drage/Boarder, Carman/35/? Hertford/Census
1881/William Heard/Boarder, General Labourer/21/Waltham Abbey, Essex/Census
1881/Samuel Brooks/Boarder, Journeyman Carpenter/45/Arkesdon, Essex/Census
1881/William Dyer/Boarder, Upholsterer/60/Waltham Abbey, Essex/Census
1882/Mrs. Julia Ann Staines/../../../Kelly's
1885/Mrs. Louisa Wiggs/../../../Kelly's*
1886/Mrs. Louisa Wiggs/../../../Kelly's
1894/John Henry Sibley/../../../Kelly's
1895/John Henry Sibley/../../../Kelly's
1898/John Henry Sibley/../../../Kelly's
1899/John Henry Sibley/../../../Kelly's
1901/John H Sibley/Licensed Victualler/63/Waltham Abbey, Essex/Census ****
1901/Sarah Sibley/Wife/62/Waltham Abbey, Essex/Census
1901/Albert Sibley/Son, Book Keeper Building Works department/22/Cheshunt, Hertfordshire/Census
1901/Adelaide Dunn/Daughter/32/Cheshunt, Hertfordshire/Census
My grandfather Eugene Francis Margetson has all records from 1891-1953 listing him as a Stone mason or similar except for 1904 when he was a 'Licensed Victualler of the Red Lion, Waltham Abbey'. My father was born 1908 in Tottenham, and he had an elder brother Cyril Francis MARGETSON born 9th August, 1904 in Waltham Abbey. The certificate shows his address at birth was the Red Lion.
The next son was born in 1906,also in Tottenham; so Eugene's stay at the pub was maybe just a year or 2 or 3. He had been working in South Africa in the 1890s, came back to England. Shipping records show him on 8th July, 1903 aboard the 'Walmer Castle' from Cape Town to Southampton.
Also, born in Waltham Abbey on 17th February, 1873 was Ida Maud May HASLER who had been waiting for Eugene to return and they married in October 1903. My grandmother Ida Maud May HASLER was the daughter of Thomas HASLER. On the 1861 census he was 'Licensed victualler' and publican of The Volunteer on Honey Lane, Waltham Abbey. ***
1908/Peter Parker Yates/../../../Kelly's
1911/Peter Parker Yates/Licensed Victualler/56/Richmond, Surrey/Census ****
1911/Maria Bloom/Housekeeper/40/Haughley, Suffolk/Census
1912/Peter Parker Yates/../../../Kelly's
1917/Mrs. Alice Pettit/../../../Kelly's
by the Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England, 1801-1900
** Provided by Ken Harrison
*** Provided by Brian Margetson
**** Provided by Kevan